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	<title>Comments on: Making the Case for On Farm Anaerobic Digesters, UPDATED - Helping Promote Sustainable Agriculture and Energy Efficiency</title>
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		<title>By: EPA Awards Turning Trash into Power for Over a Decade &#171; Christopher A. Haase</title>
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		<dc:creator>EPA Awards Turning Trash into Power for Over a Decade &#171; Christopher A. Haase</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: biogas!</title>
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		<dc:creator>biogas!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 05:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The debate between pyrolisis vs anaerobic digestion can be answered by more sophisticated understanding of manure management. Pyrolisis is appropriate for dry materials with low water content (water will absorb much energy to heat up) and AD is very suitable for more liquid manure management. Manure can be removed from stalls using numerous methods scraped stalls produce a high solids waste stream while many flushed systems and swine systems produce a manure stream with lower solids higher water content. The former may be appropriate for pyrolisis but the latter certainly is not. 

That said... there are numerous high solid AD technologies out there and if the goal was to use manure as a resource rather than a problem, the digestate has a higher value for nutrients (conserves nitrates and nutrients are in a bioavailable &quot;mineralized&quot; form) as opposed to biochar where the nutrients that haven&#039;t been volatilized are left in an immoble form. Though pyrolisis does make manure &quot;disappear&quot; which is more attractive to animal husbandry operations than high quality organic fertilizer (unfortunately IMO).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The debate between pyrolisis vs anaerobic digestion can be answered by more sophisticated understanding of manure management. Pyrolisis is appropriate for dry materials with low water content (water will absorb much energy to heat up) and AD is very suitable for more liquid manure management. Manure can be removed from stalls using numerous methods scraped stalls produce a high solids waste stream while many flushed systems and swine systems produce a manure stream with lower solids higher water content. The former may be appropriate for pyrolisis but the latter certainly is not. </p>
<p>That said&#8230; there are numerous high solid AD technologies out there and if the goal was to use manure as a resource rather than a problem, the digestate has a higher value for nutrients (conserves nitrates and nutrients are in a bioavailable &#8220;mineralized&#8221; form) as opposed to biochar where the nutrients that haven&#8217;t been volatilized are left in an immoble form. Though pyrolisis does make manure &#8220;disappear&#8221; which is more attractive to animal husbandry operations than high quality organic fertilizer (unfortunately IMO).</p>
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		<title>By: To eat or not to eat&#8230; &#171; Mara Prandi-Abrams&#39; Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>To eat or not to eat&#8230; &#171; Mara Prandi-Abrams&#39; Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] produce good stuff (fertilizers, gas to heat, electricity if you use that gas to generate). http://greeneconomypost.com/farm-anaerobic-digesters-5919.htm Seems smart to me! Even the comments after the article (unlike most comments you see on sites like [...]</description>
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		<title>By: James McPartlan</title>
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		<dc:creator>James McPartlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

You are absolutely correct in that this is a totally misunderstood technology and that it is not a &quot;sexy solution&quot;  to renewable energy or waste stream reduction issues. Having said that, I find it to be a very simple solution to one facet of pollutants converted to energy. Recycling of Ag waste on-site is very efficient as well as making a strong financial case. Ontario Province attitudes &amp; incentives could be applied to more U.S. Ag &amp; feedlot operations and create new sources of clean domestic energy not to mention, a whole new creation of U.S. jobs that could not be exported.

It sounds like a potentially great concept that I for one, would explore for development  possibilities. Also, the Pyrolosis Systems can have a place for voluminous &amp; municipal waste situations. I am interested in more debate on these issues.

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<p>You are absolutely correct in that this is a totally misunderstood technology and that it is not a &#8220;sexy solution&#8221;  to renewable energy or waste stream reduction issues. Having said that, I find it to be a very simple solution to one facet of pollutants converted to energy. Recycling of Ag waste on-site is very efficient as well as making a strong financial case. Ontario Province attitudes &amp; incentives could be applied to more U.S. Ag &amp; feedlot operations and create new sources of clean domestic energy not to mention, a whole new creation of U.S. jobs that could not be exported.</p>
<p>It sounds like a potentially great concept that I for one, would explore for development  possibilities. Also, the Pyrolosis Systems can have a place for voluminous &amp; municipal waste situations. I am interested in more debate on these issues.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris de Morsella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris de Morsella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For starters I would contend that large feedlot operations are to sustainable agriculture as coal is to clean energy. The very large feedlot operations, which you are referring to are unsustainable on many levels, besides being huge sources of pollution. They are prime abusers of antibiotic over usage, which presents many problems including environmental and health problems (it encourages the evolution of anti-biotic resistance); these types of industrial scale operations have huge energy requirements -- especially when one looks at the total ERoEI of the operation including the energy required for growing, transporting and storing the feed.

Trying to make these animal factories sustainable is akin to trying to make coal clean -- which is to say it cannot be done.

I remain convinced that anaerobic digesters fit very well on smaller scale operations where the effluent can be more easily stored and used on surrounding fields as needed and that for these types of operations they make better sense than pyrolysis systems. While I agree that the biochar produced by pyrloysis is much more compact this is not a determining issue -- IMO -- on small to medium scale operations. The effluent from a ADS is much easier to store and handle than raw manure and the much of the fertilizer value is lost in the process of thermal decomposition.

Sustainable agriculture seeks to close open cycles and recapture as much value as it can from what were waste streams. It also seeks to be as energy efficient and other external input efficient as possible. This is the crux of sustainability and will become increasingly determinant as energy and resource commodity prices continue on the long term trajectory of ever increasing price due to increasing global scarcity of available supplies.

Although it may not seem like it I do happen to think that pyrolysis is a good green technology -- where applicable. I see it being particularly applicable for recovering energy from and for carbon capture (i.e. with the biochar) for waste streams that are not suitable for anaerobic digestion, because they contain excessive levels of pollutants that would make the resultant effluent and solid remnants unsuitable for use as re-inputs into agricultural systems. A lot of urban generated waste streams fall into this category, because they contain a lot of organic pollutants that can be decompsed by pryloysis, but not by AD.  

If the source waste stream feed stock is contaminated with heavy metal pollution it is my understanding that these heavy metals remain in the biochar making it unsuitable for use as a soil additive unless these meals can be removed. And that this is a problem with a lot of municipal waste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For starters I would contend that large feedlot operations are to sustainable agriculture as coal is to clean energy. The very large feedlot operations, which you are referring to are unsustainable on many levels, besides being huge sources of pollution. They are prime abusers of antibiotic over usage, which presents many problems including environmental and health problems (it encourages the evolution of anti-biotic resistance); these types of industrial scale operations have huge energy requirements &#8212; especially when one looks at the total ERoEI of the operation including the energy required for growing, transporting and storing the feed.</p>
<p>Trying to make these animal factories sustainable is akin to trying to make coal clean &#8212; which is to say it cannot be done.</p>
<p>I remain convinced that anaerobic digesters fit very well on smaller scale operations where the effluent can be more easily stored and used on surrounding fields as needed and that for these types of operations they make better sense than pyrolysis systems. While I agree that the biochar produced by pyrloysis is much more compact this is not a determining issue &#8212; IMO &#8212; on small to medium scale operations. The effluent from a ADS is much easier to store and handle than raw manure and the much of the fertilizer value is lost in the process of thermal decomposition.</p>
<p>Sustainable agriculture seeks to close open cycles and recapture as much value as it can from what were waste streams. It also seeks to be as energy efficient and other external input efficient as possible. This is the crux of sustainability and will become increasingly determinant as energy and resource commodity prices continue on the long term trajectory of ever increasing price due to increasing global scarcity of available supplies.</p>
<p>Although it may not seem like it I do happen to think that pyrolysis is a good green technology &#8212; where applicable. I see it being particularly applicable for recovering energy from and for carbon capture (i.e. with the biochar) for waste streams that are not suitable for anaerobic digestion, because they contain excessive levels of pollutants that would make the resultant effluent and solid remnants unsuitable for use as re-inputs into agricultural systems. A lot of urban generated waste streams fall into this category, because they contain a lot of organic pollutants that can be decompsed by pryloysis, but not by AD.  </p>
<p>If the source waste stream feed stock is contaminated with heavy metal pollution it is my understanding that these heavy metals remain in the biochar making it unsuitable for use as a soil additive unless these meals can be removed. And that this is a problem with a lot of municipal waste.</p>
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		<title>By: joelsk44039</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The effluent from Anaerobic digesters is an easily stored nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium fertilizer. It is valuable. The solids can be composted and processed into rich humus.&quot;

Manure management is the number one problem associated with large dairy, swine and other animal operations.  How exactly does one store hundreds of thousands of gallons of digestate?  It is my contention that pyrolysis does more than just reduce the huge and unmanageable volumes of manures.  It produces a sterile material with most of the nutrients still present.  It is dry, so can be economically transported much further than digestate.  As a &quot;terra preta&quot; material, biochar will loosen denser soils and retain water.  And lastly, it can be field applied any time of year, unlike manures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The effluent from Anaerobic digesters is an easily stored nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium fertilizer. It is valuable. The solids can be composted and processed into rich humus.&#8221;</p>
<p>Manure management is the number one problem associated with large dairy, swine and other animal operations.  How exactly does one store hundreds of thousands of gallons of digestate?  It is my contention that pyrolysis does more than just reduce the huge and unmanageable volumes of manures.  It produces a sterile material with most of the nutrients still present.  It is dry, so can be economically transported much further than digestate.  As a &#8220;terra preta&#8221; material, biochar will loosen denser soils and retain water.  And lastly, it can be field applied any time of year, unlike manures.</p>
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		<title>By: AR S N SATHAPPAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>AR S N SATHAPPAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anaerobic-Digester
I am a CDM Consultant in Penang,Malaysia.
Malaysia and Indonesia Have more than 1000 over Palm Oil Mills.Palm Oil Mill Effluent ponds generate GHG Methane.
I worked for US Based AES Agriverdi Company in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia.We have under taken 50 over CDM Projects in Malaysia and in Indonesia.But We are not successful in getting CER Certificates  and the CDM Projects are not successful.I think that it is due to the poor technology and If any good technology is available using Anaerobic Digester Technology and capture Methane Gas,Monitor and report for CER Certification. This will be a multi Billion Doller Business Oil palm Plantation Companies to get actively involved in CDM Projects.given the whole year-round availability of Palm Oil Mill Effluents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anaerobic-Digester<br />
I am a CDM Consultant in Penang,Malaysia.<br />
Malaysia and Indonesia Have more than 1000 over Palm Oil Mills.Palm Oil Mill Effluent ponds generate GHG Methane.<br />
I worked for US Based AES Agriverdi Company in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia.We have under taken 50 over CDM Projects in Malaysia and in Indonesia.But We are not successful in getting CER Certificates  and the CDM Projects are not successful.I think that it is due to the poor technology and If any good technology is available using Anaerobic Digester Technology and capture Methane Gas,Monitor and report for CER Certification. This will be a multi Billion Doller Business Oil palm Plantation Companies to get actively involved in CDM Projects.given the whole year-round availability of Palm Oil Mill Effluents.</p>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chris de Morsella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris de Morsella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel, You raise an interesting perspective. Are pyrolyisis systems superior to AG systems as you suggest, because they succeed in reducing the volume of the outputs. The answer, depends on how these outputs are viewed. If they are viewed as a waste product, as a problem then certainly reducing both the volume and weight of the end output is an important advantage.  However if value can be extracted -- or more accurately preserved --  from the outputs then it is not as clear. The effluent from Anaerobic digesters is an easily stored nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium fertilizer. It is valuable. The solids can be composted and processed into rich humus.

One of the key ideas underlying the movement towards sustainable agriculture is the notion of closing loops that is in capturing and re-cycling valuable co-products from what are currently treated as waste streams. As you point out pyrolysis does have the advantage of significantly reducing the volume of the biomass being processed by thermally decomposing it. In instances where the biomass is contaminated with toxic components I think that pyrolysis is the best means of re-covering energy and (especially in high temperature systems) destroying many of the organic toxics such as pesticide residues etc.

However I disagree that pyrolosis is always a better answer as you seem to imply. When the feedstock is relatively free of toxins -- i.e. pesticide residues, antibiotic residues, or other non organic pollutants -- the large volume of co-products produced by AG systems is a valuable fertilizer and the solids residues when composted are a marketable product -- can be sold to landscapers for example.

I think there is room for both pyrolysis and for Anaerobic Digester systems and the relative merits need to be weighed on a case by case basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel, You raise an interesting perspective. Are pyrolyisis systems superior to AG systems as you suggest, because they succeed in reducing the volume of the outputs. The answer, depends on how these outputs are viewed. If they are viewed as a waste product, as a problem then certainly reducing both the volume and weight of the end output is an important advantage.  However if value can be extracted &#8212; or more accurately preserved &#8212;  from the outputs then it is not as clear. The effluent from Anaerobic digesters is an easily stored nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium fertilizer. It is valuable. The solids can be composted and processed into rich humus.</p>
<p>One of the key ideas underlying the movement towards sustainable agriculture is the notion of closing loops that is in capturing and re-cycling valuable co-products from what are currently treated as waste streams. As you point out pyrolysis does have the advantage of significantly reducing the volume of the biomass being processed by thermally decomposing it. In instances where the biomass is contaminated with toxic components I think that pyrolysis is the best means of re-covering energy and (especially in high temperature systems) destroying many of the organic toxics such as pesticide residues etc.</p>
<p>However I disagree that pyrolosis is always a better answer as you seem to imply. When the feedstock is relatively free of toxins &#8212; i.e. pesticide residues, antibiotic residues, or other non organic pollutants &#8212; the large volume of co-products produced by AG systems is a valuable fertilizer and the solids residues when composted are a marketable product &#8212; can be sold to landscapers for example.</p>
<p>I think there is room for both pyrolysis and for Anaerobic Digester systems and the relative merits need to be weighed on a case by case basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris de Morsella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris de Morsella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George ~ You raise what seems to me to be the single most important road block that is preventing wider adoption of anaerobic digester systems in this country. This point was also raised in a previous comment by John Wilson. If the government (working with the utilities) can mandate a reasonable long term guaranteed market for electric power and preferably one that emphasizes peak load pricing; just this single factor would make it much easier for farming operations to raise the capital needed in order to build AD systems by providing the financial lending institutions with a known and quantifiable long term revenue stream that would be generated (literally) by the project. 
As you point out by tying these systems into the larger carbon offset market an additional and critically for raising capital a quantifiable revenue stream can be added.  Muliti-farm clusters also seem like an excellent idea, especially for smaller scale operations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George ~ You raise what seems to me to be the single most important road block that is preventing wider adoption of anaerobic digester systems in this country. This point was also raised in a previous comment by John Wilson. If the government (working with the utilities) can mandate a reasonable long term guaranteed market for electric power and preferably one that emphasizes peak load pricing; just this single factor would make it much easier for farming operations to raise the capital needed in order to build AD systems by providing the financial lending institutions with a known and quantifiable long term revenue stream that would be generated (literally) by the project.<br />
As you point out by tying these systems into the larger carbon offset market an additional and critically for raising capital a quantifiable revenue stream can be added.  Muliti-farm clusters also seem like an excellent idea, especially for smaller scale operations.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris de Morsella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris de Morsella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alison ~ you raise valid points. I am surprised by the level of interest this post has generated I had figured it would be hard to get anyone to read an article on the subject of digesting... well mostly crap. I would like to do a more detailed follow up article on this that provides greater details and specificity, perhaps by focusing on some specific example. 
If you have specific real world numbers that quantify AD system inputs, outputs, capital expenditures, revenue streams, environmental mitigation -- I am currently researching them and would love to hear from you. 
Thanks, Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alison ~ you raise valid points. I am surprised by the level of interest this post has generated I had figured it would be hard to get anyone to read an article on the subject of digesting&#8230; well mostly crap. I would like to do a more detailed follow up article on this that provides greater details and specificity, perhaps by focusing on some specific example.<br />
If you have specific real world numbers that quantify AD system inputs, outputs, capital expenditures, revenue streams, environmental mitigation &#8212; I am currently researching them and would love to hear from you.<br />
Thanks, Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Tottenham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison Tottenham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a good article as far as it goes.  But for those in a position to install the technology, the crucial data is missing i.e. Number of Stock (n) related to Vol. of Digester related to Heat produced or equivalent KWh of energy; together with an idea of the cost of installing the digester to deal with the output of n stock; and the need for other materials to feed the digester and maintain a suitable consistency in the digestate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a good article as far as it goes.  But for those in a position to install the technology, the crucial data is missing i.e. Number of Stock (n) related to Vol. of Digester related to Heat produced or equivalent KWh of energy; together with an idea of the cost of installing the digester to deal with the output of n stock; and the need for other materials to feed the digester and maintain a suitable consistency in the digestate.</p>
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		<title>By: George Hoguet</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Hoguet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a ggod articel as you both have mentioend.  Sadly, there are only a few hundred systems yet in the US, whereas Europe and South America each have thousands of digesters.  I worked on helping to get a reasonable net metering provision for dairy digesters in Pennyslvanai, and our company has been successful in helping bring front-end funds forthe REC and carbon offsets to several family dairies there as well as in a few other states. We are now beginning to pilot a concept of mutli-farm clusters that can help reduce the start-up costs and make these systems viable for smaller farms. We do not build the digesters, but rather help with financing and marketing the emission credits.  You can learn more on our website: www.nativeenergy.com. Click on &quot;Our Projects&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a ggod articel as you both have mentioend.  Sadly, there are only a few hundred systems yet in the US, whereas Europe and South America each have thousands of digesters.  I worked on helping to get a reasonable net metering provision for dairy digesters in Pennyslvanai, and our company has been successful in helping bring front-end funds forthe REC and carbon offsets to several family dairies there as well as in a few other states. We are now beginning to pilot a concept of mutli-farm clusters that can help reduce the start-up costs and make these systems viable for smaller farms. We do not build the digesters, but rather help with financing and marketing the emission credits.  You can learn more on our website: <a href="http://www.nativeenergy.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.nativeenergy.com</a>. Click on &#8220;Our Projects&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: joelsk44039</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The central problem facing large dairies is dealing with the overwhelming volumes of manure they produce.  Anaerobic digestion does nothing to remedy this problem.  At the end of the process, the volume of digestate remains massively large.  Okay, it doesn&#039;t smell as much, has better overall characteristics than raw manure slurry, etc., etc., but the fact remains, the volume has changed very little. 

Additionally, digesters and their bacteria, are a finicky breed.  A sudden drop or rise in the operating temperature can ruin a processing cycle.

My company manufactures an integrated pyrolysis and conventional engine/generator set system that not only addresses the problem of overall manure volumes, but generates much higher power capacities while also creating biochar and oils which can be sold.  We believe that our solution represents a significantly better means of manure processing and disposal than anaerobic digestion.

www.randaenergysolutions.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The central problem facing large dairies is dealing with the overwhelming volumes of manure they produce.  Anaerobic digestion does nothing to remedy this problem.  At the end of the process, the volume of digestate remains massively large.  Okay, it doesn&#8217;t smell as much, has better overall characteristics than raw manure slurry, etc., etc., but the fact remains, the volume has changed very little. </p>
<p>Additionally, digesters and their bacteria, are a finicky breed.  A sudden drop or rise in the operating temperature can ruin a processing cycle.</p>
<p>My company manufactures an integrated pyrolysis and conventional engine/generator set system that not only addresses the problem of overall manure volumes, but generates much higher power capacities while also creating biochar and oils which can be sold.  We believe that our solution represents a significantly better means of manure processing and disposal than anaerobic digestion.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.randaenergysolutions.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.randaenergysolutions.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris de Morsella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris de Morsella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John ~ You raise a critically important and practical point. There is a lot of work that needs to be done in order to make the environmental benefits of anaerobic digesters more widely understood and better appreciated, not only by farmers themselves, but also by policy makers and society at large.  The mitigation of air and water pollution and the reduction in greenhouse gas emissions that can be achieved by bioreactors has a significant benefit or value for the commons but whose cost is currently born mostly by the farmer. Some states, recognizing the larger societal benefits of AG systems are beginning to offer tax and other incentives to farming operations that build these systems. I mentioned a few examples I was able to find in the article. However much more needs to be done.

I am impressed by the support for on farm anaerobic digester systems and the well thought out provincial government programs of Ontario, Canada. One aspect that they have addressed and that in my opinion should be a model for analogous US programs is mandating a clear market base for selling surplus electricity up onto the grid. The Renewable Energy Standard Offer Program (RESOP) -- in Ontario province -- gives biogas electricity producers the option to sell or replace power at fixed rates for a period of 20 years. At the time of writing, the value of the power is approximately 11 ¢/kilowatt hour (kWh) for non-peak periods and 14.52 ¢/kWh for peak periods. This guarantee makes it much easier for farming operations to raise capital by providing a fixed rate guaranteed market for any electric power that is produced.

Are you aware of any similar programs in the southeast region of the US, which you are most familiar with? I have looked for incentive programs that are tied to the carbon offset market, but have not been able to find any. If you know of any existing tie ins I would love to hear about them. 

As I alluded to in my post one of the problems that anaerobic digesters face is that they are poorly understood by the public and by policy makers and the technology is not sexy like say solar power is and is thus often relegated to the back of the policy agenda. I am on the lookout for finding grants, tax incentives such as accelerated capital depreciation, training programs, and market guarantees similar to those existing in Ontario, Canada. Bioreactors are an important technology for making many types of farming operations more sustainable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John ~ You raise a critically important and practical point. There is a lot of work that needs to be done in order to make the environmental benefits of anaerobic digesters more widely understood and better appreciated, not only by farmers themselves, but also by policy makers and society at large.  The mitigation of air and water pollution and the reduction in greenhouse gas emissions that can be achieved by bioreactors has a significant benefit or value for the commons but whose cost is currently born mostly by the farmer. Some states, recognizing the larger societal benefits of AG systems are beginning to offer tax and other incentives to farming operations that build these systems. I mentioned a few examples I was able to find in the article. However much more needs to be done.</p>
<p>I am impressed by the support for on farm anaerobic digester systems and the well thought out provincial government programs of Ontario, Canada. One aspect that they have addressed and that in my opinion should be a model for analogous US programs is mandating a clear market base for selling surplus electricity up onto the grid. The Renewable Energy Standard Offer Program (RESOP) &#8212; in Ontario province &#8212; gives biogas electricity producers the option to sell or replace power at fixed rates for a period of 20 years. At the time of writing, the value of the power is approximately 11 ¢/kilowatt hour (kWh) for non-peak periods and 14.52 ¢/kWh for peak periods. This guarantee makes it much easier for farming operations to raise capital by providing a fixed rate guaranteed market for any electric power that is produced.</p>
<p>Are you aware of any similar programs in the southeast region of the US, which you are most familiar with? I have looked for incentive programs that are tied to the carbon offset market, but have not been able to find any. If you know of any existing tie ins I would love to hear about them. </p>
<p>As I alluded to in my post one of the problems that anaerobic digesters face is that they are poorly understood by the public and by policy makers and the technology is not sexy like say solar power is and is thus often relegated to the back of the policy agenda. I am on the lookout for finding grants, tax incentives such as accelerated capital depreciation, training programs, and market guarantees similar to those existing in Ontario, Canada. Bioreactors are an important technology for making many types of farming operations more sustainable.</p>
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		<title>By: John D. Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John D. Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very good overview. However, issues we are seeing in the field are the lack of organization to develop a market and a lack of clarity regarding environmental performance of these systems.

The revenue stream for these systems basically has three components: on-farm savings (cost offsets), electricity sales, and renewable energy/carbon credits. In order to achieve the electric sales and credit revenue streams, the digester system has to be &quot;sold&quot; to the utility and its regulator as having value in those respects. This requires a lot of paperwork and, ideally, an economy of scale by bundling multiple systems together.

Who&#039;s doing work to help address this issue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very good overview. However, issues we are seeing in the field are the lack of organization to develop a market and a lack of clarity regarding environmental performance of these systems.</p>
<p>The revenue stream for these systems basically has three components: on-farm savings (cost offsets), electricity sales, and renewable energy/carbon credits. In order to achieve the electric sales and credit revenue streams, the digester system has to be &#8220;sold&#8221; to the utility and its regulator as having value in those respects. This requires a lot of paperwork and, ideally, an economy of scale by bundling multiple systems together.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s doing work to help address this issue?</p>
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